Manliness

[Indref]

It's going to depend what you concider "Having a job to do". In my mind you, don't lose 'manliness points' (lol) for privately letting your stress out. Instead, you would for crying in an exam room because you realize you don't know what half the answers are.

Balance is key.

When I lost my child, I cried like a ninny. For weeks.

If you drop your icecream in downtown Ottawa, and cry just as hard, you need professional help.

This goes EQUALLY for BOTH GENDERS.

Side point, if I smell a woman's hair, or get in and get a nice cuddle, I often drown in what I can only assume to be fae hormones. I'm usually giddy and 'drunk' for an hour or so afterwards. It sucks.

I've been told that I 'smell spicy' and that my 'scent' is more like a cologne than 'man stink'. Never been sure what to make of this. I mean, what the hell do you say to that?

Girls? Comments please?

[Ironklaw]

hehe, Thanks for that little peek into your brain mechanics.. I lol'd. Honestly I don't really like guys like that Their annoying selfish and irritating.. My Personal rule for manliness isn't bench pressing to show how awesome I am. Strength comes from your Heart your mind and your Will, Not your muscles.

Course I'm not a woman and to small to do much Bench pressing, hehe.

You're missing the point. Nowhere in this discussion did we qualify bench-pressing as something to display manliness. Being able to life a certain amount of weight is manly (as it can pertain to your survival); however, bench pressing just to get big and show off is machismo and that is NOT manliness. Machismo is what some men use to hide a lack of manliness or to avoid scrutiny from other insecure men.

I would give things that are different an honest chance. I'd cooperate with others anytime i could. I'd look at the world in a way hungry for the best of things and armed with patience and genuine interest, i'd find them. I'd respect the feelings of others and stand up for the thoughts and ideas i hold. Instead of walking away from situations i don't like, i'd find a solution calmly and learn to live with it. I'd teach others about community and demonstrate it by helping my neighbors. If i were to be more manly, i'd swallow the hardest times of life like good medicine. But most importantly, if i were to become a true man, i'd have to realise my limitations and make realistic goals. I don't know what makes a man, and i really couldn't give a bat shit about confusing terms like, manliness. But these things make a man worth talking about.

Very well said. Manliness isn't necessarily something physical. It's a state of mind and principles by which you live your life. It's being able to respect yourself, being able to respect others for their opinions and ideas and being able to set a good example for others to follow. For a somewhat over-simplified list of the "types" of men, click this link.

Which is close enough to apply to you in terms of personality? Which would you consider striving to become? I'd like to aim towards becoming the Gentleman. Also, practising Sprezzatura (there's a link to that on the page) and, hopefully, mastering it is something I feel would be well worth the effort. A downfall the Gentleman has is, according to the site, a lack of toughness. This is true in my case. I'm not a tough guy. I'd prefer to replace toughness with intellect and social aptitude (a winning combination).

Anyway, how about you? I know there's going to be at least one person screaming about how HORRIBLE it is to classify people and how offensive it is. Blah blah blah. Just play along. This is supposed to be a discussion, not a thread where people can come in and throw around accusations of persecution. I'm not judging you, so man up and answer the question. (lol)

[Ramses]

excellent posting. thanks for bringing it back to the ground level.

although of course it is an oversimplistic outline of types of man, it has merit.

the gentelman archetype was beaten - literally - into the siblings and i from square one. tact, proficiency, guile, knowledge and intellect were taught to be THE keys to success in this modern world where one well deserved punch in the wrong situation can leave you with a permanent criminal record impeding the rest of your life. its a crazy world now! gotta use your head.

sprezzatura isn't a skill or practice anymore if its The Way To Be Or Else. Nothing against it, but it can feel like living in a cage to some.

this being said, if i had to pick amongst these, i evolved past aiming for the Gentelman archetype to the Lone Wolf archetype. there really is no reason to not go do whatever the god damned hell you want to. its all just particles anyways. no, really, it really is all just particles. like/need an idea? good for fucking you. wa hoo. keep it with you. or don't; fuck you. whatever. don't like/need an idea? why the fuck are you carrying that around with you?

even though it really doesn't need to be said, Clint Eastwood is THE FUCKING MAN. That guy will get some shit done.


i have always admired the adventurer archetype. the blind, instincive, zero-reaction-time, DNA-level urge to just GO impresses me. when the angry drunk frat boy or jack-knifing tractor trailer is hurtling towards you, some scream, some panic, some figure out the best course of action - all of these people die - but the Adventurer leaps onboard and pulls the emergency brake. without a microsecond's delay. or maybe i just spent a weekend playing through Uncharted 1 and 2.

EDIT: Daniel Plainview in There Will Be Blood is an excellent illustration of my long term goals in life. that guy didn't have it made; HE MADE IT

[Shaedyn]

I'd see myself mostly as the adventurer followed by the statesman.

[Vaporshi]

I wish they had a female version of this site, it'd be interesting to read what types of "feminine" are defined. Until then, it's Heartless Bitches International.

[LexusTheDragon]

Hmmm.... Good bit of info on that 'Bitches' page... LOL I'm kinda sorry for you women out there that have to deal with who we call 'pricks' on a date-to-date basis.

[Indref]

Every single trait a mae needs to survive well in this world, a fae does too, and vice versa.

Tell me one thing that goes against the above.

I attest that 'manliness' is an outdated ideal that should go the way of the flat-earth concept.

That's all I have to say on the matter.

[Vaporshi]

Every single trait a mae needs to survive well in this world, a fae does too, and vice versa.

Tell me one thing that goes against the above.

I attest that 'manliness' is an outdated ideal that should go the way of the flat-earth concept.

That's all I have to say on the matter.

Just out of curiosity, why do you call them "fae" and "mae"?

[Meer]

EDIT: Daniel Plainview in There Will Be Blood is an excellent illustration of my long term goals in life. that guy didn't have it made; HE MADE IT

Lawl. I dunno, I see where you're coming from with wanting to be like him... that guy got shit done.

Great movie though. I enjoyed it.

[Indref]

Just out of curiosity, why do you call them "fae" and "mae"?

Why do you call them male and female.