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Music Editing Program and Hardware.

Postby Andrej » 13 Mar 2009, 11:02

I'm looking to find any music editing programs for...*sighs*...Vista. I play numerous instruments, and due to the lack of local musicians looking the make a particular sound...I'm gonna do it myself. Wondering if there's any guitar patchcords that lead to usb as well. I have a HUGE project planned. I'll appreciate any help I can get.
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Postby Pooshie » 13 Mar 2009, 11:16

When I was still playing around with music stuff, I was using ACID.  I don't know how good it is compared to the rest of the stuff out there, but I thought it was kinda neat.
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Postby Ironklaw » 15 Mar 2009, 17:38

Cubase and Protools are both pretty solid. Also, for recording to a sound card, I'd seriously recommend going to the Source and buying a stereo adaptor that would let you connect a large jack (like those on a patch cord) to a small, headphone-sized jack. You can then plug that in to your computer's line-in jack and play straight into your computer. Naturally, if you're using a guitar, routing it through any kind of effect pedal helps (as they help amplify the sound.

Though honestly, one of the best ways to capture a guitar is to mic your amp and record that way. If you don't have one, you can get a decent mic for $50-$80 (for something pretty much professional-quality). Set it up in front of your amp and plug the mic into your computer (the same way I described above, though using the mic jack). That way, you get some of the ambiance from the room around it, which can improve the sound you get from recording.

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Postby Viper » 15 Mar 2009, 18:26

Pooshie wrote:When I was still playing around with music stuff, I was using ACID.  I don't know how good it is compared to the rest of the stuff out there, but I thought it was kinda neat.


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Postby Featheredragon » 15 Mar 2009, 19:42

I use Cool Edit Pro for audio editing and Cdex for wave capture or conversion to mp3.    

Cool Edit was bought out by Adobe years ago.  Now, it's known as Adobe Audition.  Haven't used the Adobe version at all but I think it's very similar.  I like Cool Edit because its interface is appealing and easy to understand--easier than the other softwares.  Plus, it actually delivers on features and does a good job.  

Exact Audio Copy will do in a pinch if you don't want to use Cdex.  EAC has more features and is very similar to Cdex but Cdex is more streamlined and convienent for my purposes.  

In terms of hardware, the more bits the better and make sure it has all the possible imput/output jacks you could want.  Don't limit yourself only to phonojacks for input/output.  

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Postby Pooshie » 16 Mar 2009, 09:13

Viper wrote:
Pooshie wrote:When I was still playing around with music stuff, I was using ACID.  I don't know how good it is compared to the rest of the stuff out there, but I thought it was kinda neat.


Don't do acid poosh, it will fuck up your miiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiind


Yeah... I know.  My private art teacher a long time ago used to to a lot of the stuff.  Cool art though.
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Postby Viper » 16 Mar 2009, 11:08

Pooshie wrote:
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Pooshie wrote:When I was still playing around with music stuff, I was using ACID.  I don't know how good it is compared to the rest of the stuff out there, but I thought it was kinda neat.


Don't do acid poosh, it will fuck up your miiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiind


Yeah... I know.  My private art teacher a long time ago used to to a lot of the stuff.  Cool art though.


Whatever gets the creative juices flowing I guess

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Postby Pooshie » 16 Mar 2009, 11:29

Back on topic though, I used to use ACID to mangle MP3 files of songs that I either hated or that annoyed me.  Take "Ghost of Me" by My Chemical Romance.  I can't listen to this song anymore.  It's too slow.  So I fucked with it until it started sounding like Elvis snorted the blood of a crack whore.
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Postby thewindfffffffffffff » 17 Mar 2009, 02:11

fruityloops, audacity

for USB you might want an external interface with low impedance inputs like these:
http://www.m-audio.com/index.php?do=pro ... interfaces
(if you can live with input delay n such)

there's always amp simulators like the line6 POD that have USB output. all of this is on http://www.musiciansfriend.com. most dont rly sound like amps though. i had a small mixer with USB ouput too, the Alesis one.

there's also guitars with pickups that go direct to USB or something, but i never tried them. saw one at spacemanmusic a while ago (i think).

i think the best bet for recording with no delay or connection problems is probably a dedicated multi-track recorder like Fostex, but those start at 200-300$.

Ironklaw wrote:Cubase and Protools are both pretty solid. Also, for recording to a sound card, I'd seriously recommend going to the Source and buying a stereo adaptor that would let you connect a large jack (like those on a patch cord) to a small, headphone-sized jack. You can then plug that in to your computer's line-in jack and play straight into your computer. Naturally, if you're using a guitar, routing it through any kind of effect pedal helps (as they help amplify the sound.


that sometimes works but it isn't meant to be. if you want to plug straight into sound card you need a DI box to convert impedance from high (guitar) to low (sound card). or half the sound gets lost. cheap ones at steve's music


Ironklaw wrote:Though honestly, one of the best ways to capture a guitar is to mic your amp and record that way. If you don't have one, you can get a decent mic for $50-$80 (for something pretty much professional-quality). Set it up in front of your amp and plug the mic into your computer (the same way I described above, though using the mic jack). That way, you get some of the ambiance from the room around it, which can improve the sound you get from recording.


this is the best way if you have an amp.
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Postby Ironklaw » 17 Mar 2009, 10:30

Featheredragon wrote:I use Cool Edit Pro for audio editing and Cdex for wave capture or conversion to mp3.    

Cool Edit was bought out by Adobe years ago.  Now, it's known as Adobe Audition.  Haven't used the Adobe version at all but I think it's very similar.  I like Cool Edit because its interface is appealing and easy to understand--easier than the other softwares.  Plus, it actually delivers on features and does a good job.  

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Audition is pretty kick-ass. I use it for my more basic audio editing as it has a massive amount of features and is attractive to look at (the What I'm Listening To files in the music section I compiled in Audition). The only drawback is that unlike more professional programs, it doesn't match the audio you input into it to the tempo, making it hard to mix down some songs.

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fruityloops, audacity

for USB you might want an external interface with low impedance inputs like these:
http://www.m-audio.com/index.php?...duc ... interfaces
(if you can live with input delay n such)

there's always amp simulators like the line6 POD that have USB output. all of this is on http://www.musiciansfriend.com. most dont rly sound like amps though. i had a small mixer with USB ouput too, the Alesis one.

there's also guitars with pickups that go direct to USB or something, but i never tried them. saw one at spacemanmusic a while ago (i think).

i think the best bet for recording with no delay or connection problems is probably a dedicated multi-track recorder like Fostex, but those start at 200-300$.


I tend to use Reason 4 over Fruity Loops. FL is good, but Reason FEELS like a real synthesizer and has a staggering number of usable instruments and effects.

As for regulating the impedance and all that, I tend to route my instruments through a digital 8-track recording studio first (I worked for a summer in High School to buy that. Was about $1000). Either recording the song in its entirety there first, or just using it as a mixing board works really well. Has a good range of effects (though its distortion is kinda crap) and it has excellent mic effects (like Gate, etc) that really improve the quality of vocal recordings.
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