Capital Furs

http://furry.wikia.com/wiki/Cupro's_Maxim

All Furs are broken, to a greater or lesser extent

Simply put, all furries are one way or another, not normal. At the "light" end of the scale, they wish to indulge in some fantasy escapism and social conversation - people who have wonderful, fulfilling lives, do not need to escape from them. Given that a vanishingly tiny proportion of people are actually happy, then this end of the scale can be assumed to be populated by people who are very nearly normal, apart from a desire to role play a dragon with a tea fixation, nudist cervitaur or Jewish Aardvark.

At the other end of the scale are those with severe emotional, mental or social problems, who are looking for a place to belong, where they can socialise, and themselves feel normal. They may be described as "Very Broken".

It's worth remembering that if you consider someone is "broken" that you should also consider the ways in which you yourself are "broken", and as the sage says: "Cut them some slack".

Something I found by accident.

Yeah, I think everyone has some problem or other, from just not being completely satisfied with the human world, to thinking so differently that they don't fit into it and aren't successful with it.

I'm not sure that makes people "broken" so much as different. There's no universal "right" way of thinking and communicating, but there is a general expectation from mainstream society of how people should behave that causes someone to have problems if they don't follow it, so in a sense, broken is not completely inaccurate either.

I'm happy. I always have been generally happy. There's never been any terrible strain in my life, no serious problems compared to what many other people face.

Not to contest the point too much, as I am more than well-aware that a lot of furs are 'broken' (and some are seriously delusional  :roll: ), but it's basically true for every person on the planet: some people are more broken than others, some are just crazy, some are fairly normal, and some defy logical description.

Most of the line makes me want to laugh but one part I totally don't get.

At the "light" end of the scale, they wish to indulge in some fantasy escapism and social conversation - people who have wonderful, fulfilling lives, do not need to escape from them. Given that a vanishingly tiny proportion of people are actually happy, then this end of the scale can be assumed to be populated by people who are very nearly normal, apart from a desire to role play a dragon with a tea fixation, nudist cervitaur or Jewish Aardvark.

This seems inspecific.  I'm pretty sure that some escapism and socialization are a necessary drive to human function even.  It's why we have books and TV and movies and video games and everything else.  We, as in all people, need some fictional indulgance and fun or we go all The Shining on people.  Here's Johnny! >:D

Simply put, what it discribes as 'lightly disfunctional' seems entirely functional and normal to me.  We have entire entertainment industries that would suggest that consumption of fantasy are the norm.  Infact, I'd be pretty creeped out by someone who DIDN'T need some fun, fantasy, or entertainment to function...

The definitions also conflict with the spirit of the 'maxims' message.  It suggests that 'un-broken' is ficticious and unattainable, then being 'broken' to any degree isn't a unique trait to furries.  It's a global definition.  Also, you can't interchange 'not normal' with 'broken' as it has, because if you say un-broken is unattainable, then being unbroken is infact the least normal thing possible.  It's It's paradoxical.

I actually agree with Ashes on this one.

Humankind is 'broken'. Not necessarily furs. At the very worst, one can simply point to us as a minor if somewhat more obvious symptom of what is wrong with Humanity as a whole. And yet at the same time, a lot of that ideal is what keeps Humanity creative, and wanting to ever improve and gives us our drive to discover.

So perhaps then, it is not a 'malfunction' but merely the cost one must pay in order to have creativity, true joy and a drive to improve as well as free will.

Because even the worst furry that I've ever heard of cant even begin to compare to all the mass genocide, blatant greed and other massive cancers of the world that 'normal' people create.

I don't think the Maxim itself woulda have any flaws had it not shot itself down by resorting to the Jargon file to define 'Broken' and then used 'normal' as an analog to 'unbroken'.  Plus that whole definition of 'lightly broken'.  It woulda sounded profound if he hadn't deflated it afterwards.

Because even the worst furry that I've ever heard of cant even begin to compare to all the mass genocide, blatant greed and other massive cancers of the world that 'normal' people create.

But considdering the socioeconomic state that the majority of the English speaking fandom seems to exist in, that comparison is rather invalid.  Few furs are in a position to exploit people for the purposes of greed.  (Unless ya pull a Pogoroo! Ha ha ha! :D ), similarly as most are white middle class young people in western nations, not many will ever have the opperunity to be cought up in some sort of nationalistic or ethnic clensing.

The vast, vast majority of western, english speaking, middle class white folk don't get an oppertunity to be remarkable in either a negative or positive way.  Grow up some of these kids with dark skin in Africa and conscript them as soldiers at the age of 14 and lets see how things go then.

Yeah but my point is Ashes, I very much doubt you'll be likely to find more of such people amongst furries than anywhere else. Hell alot of furries I've met tend to be Anti-gun or just fun loving folk in general.

That doenst mean we dont have our assholes abound. Just look at all the shit Sibe started several years back, the assault charges, not to mention theft, piracy and an arm length of other related crimial charges he got slapped with.

So too have there been scammers and the like in the past. But I dont belive the percentage is any greater (or less) in the furry fandom than it is outside of it.

For example the proportion of smokers and drug users seems to me to be the same in the fandom as I've met outside of it. And I've yet to meet a total burn out junkie furry. Though I'm sure probably at least one exists somewhere in this world.

I've met several burn-out furries in the last few years. At least 3 I can think of.

What do you mean by burn out?

Dan Skunk wrote:What do you mean by burn out?

People who have used so many hard drugs drugs/drunk so much booze/rubbing alcohol their brains are fried.

Come to think of it, everything is broken. Who has heard of the principle of incertitude? If you take a peek at an atom, you can either precisely determine his position, or his direction. You can never say both of them exactly, as the action of peeking disturbs the atom and throws everything off. If you know where it is, you've changed it's direction. If you know it's direction, you've just changed it's position.

Or how about organized chaos? Or evolution? It seems the whole world works on the principle of 'broken'. If nothing were broken, the universe would be an evenly spread out cloud of ever-expanding gas. But it's not, so something obviously went 'wrong' at the beginning. Saying being broken is a particularity of a group of people in a human population pales at the comparison, doesn't it? It seems awfully selfish of us to try to say all the principles of nature are something only us humans can do. In fact, the more we discover, the more we realize we are wrong.