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Atlantis: Where could it be?

Postby LexusTheDragon » 26 Oct 2009, 22:51

Where do you think Atlantis was?

Please give me your viewpoints and please provide legitimate data / information to support you theories.

OK, so I'll start you guys off...

Atlantis, IMO, was located in the Atlantic Ocean (hence the name), and legend has it that Atlantis was greater than Libya and Asia combined. Also, scientists believe that the Ruins are at the bottom of Marianas Trench, since we've looked everywhere else, and we currently don't have the technology to travel to 'the bottom' of the world's deepest underwater trench, and it's depth is unknown.
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Re: Atlantis: Where could it be?

Postby Shaedyn » 27 Oct 2009, 01:17

I think it was in Greece and was hit by a tidal wave or it never existed in the first place.
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Re: Atlantis: Where could it be?

Postby Kasuke » 27 Oct 2009, 07:39

13 Crystal Skulls of Atlantis? o:


Wasn't it located around the Bermuda Triangle?
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Re: Atlantis: Where could it be?

Postby Ironklaw » 27 Oct 2009, 11:36

I don't think it ever existed, frankly. If it did, I don't think it was the super-advanced civilization it's made out to be. Think about it: If they were so advanced, how'd they manage to get wiped out?

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Re: Atlantis: Where could it be?

Postby Meer » 27 Oct 2009, 11:58

If it was the size of Libya and Asia combined, we'd probably have found some trace of it.

There's more evidence for ghosts, aliens or alien ghosts than there is for the existence for Atlantis. Atlantis was probably created as a morality tale since all of the legends relate that Atlantians were advanced, arrogant and indulgant people. My guess would be that it was a sinking island simply because Greece was a country largely based around island-to-island trade. Having a continent sink wouldn't have had the same effect since most of Greece was made up of islands... oh look, now they can relate the loss of Atlantis to their own island-city!

Also, I don't believe the Atlantic ocean being called the Atlantic ocean is sufficient proof of Atlantis' location since it was named after the Greek Titan Atlas, and had nothing to do with Atlantis. It's like saying Atlanta must be located in the Atlantic ocean because their names are similar.

Greek legends for the most part were told as morality tales, if you look at a lot of them right up to their creation myths revolving around the Olympian Gods, they're all about bad things happening to bad people, or people who go against Greek tenants... Atlantis is no different I bet, and the fact we haven't found it is more a sign that it isn't there, then it's just in Mariana's Trench.

Finally, I'm curious. Which scientists believe it's at the bottom of Mariana's Trench? It doesn't strike me as particularly scientific to simply assume it exists and it's just in the one place we can't look.
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Re: Atlantis: Where could it be?

Postby Kesslan » 27 Oct 2009, 12:22

Well there is that one place out in the ocean where there are the large slabs deep under water that dont seem to make any sense for being there but so far no one has come up with a solid reason, far as I've ever heard, of why they are there. However a lot of superstition likes to claim it was once part of a path or something that lead to Atlantis.
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Re: Atlantis: Where could it be?

Postby Aelan » 27 Oct 2009, 14:54

I'm gonna post my thoughts on this since I have some scientific background in both past and present geography of the Earth. I think its entirely possible that the Atlantis myth is simply the greek version of the "flood" mythology that's common to most cultures in the world. Of course, many myths are based partially on the truth and here's my take on it.
About 24,000 years ago, Earth was in a period called "lower glacial maximum". This is the time during the most recent ice age where the glaciers had reach their maximum extent. That is a huge amount of water locked up in ice sheets up to 1km thick or more at their thickest. That water has to come from somewhere, in this case the oceans. Therefore, sea level was much lower during that time compared to what it is now (up to 200 m lower in some places) so the coastlines of the continents extended further out into what is now the ocean. If we assume that the habits of humanity were mostly the same in the past as they are now, most of the human population would have been living on or near the coast at those times.
Now what happens when the ice melts? Sea level starts to rise, flooding all that coastline and displacing all those people and forcing them to move further inland. There is evidence that this melting was slow overall but there were several episodes of the entire volume of ice-dammed meltwater lakes being released into the sea within a matter of hours once the ice dam retaining that water ruptured. This means that in some parts of the world the sea level could have risen by a few meters incredibly fast, possibly fast enough to kill people and disrupt organized societies. The survivors would have kept verbal accounts of the events and passed it down from generation to generation, but like a game of telephone the message you get at the end of the chain will be somewhat different from the original.
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Re: Atlantis: Where could it be?

Postby Indref » 27 Oct 2009, 16:02

Atlantis was built millions of years ago by the Ancients, who called it 'Atlantus'. The city resided in Antarctica on Earth until five to ten million years ago, when a deadly plague prompted the Ancients to relocate it to the Pegasus galaxy. There, it served as the Ancients' capital as they built a new system of Stargates and seeded many worlds with humans. However, the Ancients' activities gave rise to a powerful new species, the Wraith. With their vastly superior numbers, the Wraith drove the Ancients from their holdings until only Atlantis was left, defended by its powerful shield and a network of armed satellites. The Wraith laid siege to Atlantis for years; The Ancients submerged the city for protection but, unable to see a path to victory, eventually chose to return to Earth through the Stargate. There they merged with the native human population, and their accounts of Atlantis gave rise to the classical myth of the Lost City. Atlantis itself lay on the ocean floor, empty and dormant, for ten thousand years.
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Re: Atlantis: Where could it be?

Postby Shaedyn » 27 Oct 2009, 17:30

I am not an expert at all- really I don't know MUCH about ancient history, but I know some cities have become lost- Pompeii (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pompeii) for example, was lost for over a thousand years before they found it again. So it I wouldn't totally discount Atlantis but yeah, odds are it never existed. Was it a super advanced society? doubtful. But again the ancient world has things that could be seen as super advanced. Archimedes is said to have some crazy stuff, some of which really could have existed (Heat ray- unlikery. Claw- likely) The colossus of Rhodes- another example of "Super advanced" ancients. King Mino's palace on Crete, which is thought to have been big for it's time, was seen as an endless labyrinth by outsiders who had never seen such a building. (Compared to a modern University though, it's nothing :P)
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Re: Atlantis: Where could it be?

Postby Kesslan » 27 Oct 2009, 19:26

Greek fire was also an item that while real, stumped people for a long time on how they came up with it.

So was the 'accuracy' of the pyramids. In fact at one point there was some newspaper article (or was it a magazine article?) some years back that touched on the subject and how one guy had claimed that even with lasers they'd be hard pressed to be that accurate. And yet some one went and showed exactly how it could be done with a simple wooden wheel and a stick, with the wheel marked at set intervals for distance so you basically had an endless ruler. You can in fact still buy such things made of more modern materials though their a little uncommon. I do not however, remember the proper name for them.

And then you have things like Easter Island. People swore up and down it should have been impossible to move the statues but then it was pointed out at the likelihood of the island once having had trees. Some one then took a bunch of small tree logs out to Easter Island and they cut free one of the unfinished statues and successfully used them as well as rope to move the statue all the way down the island and into place with no issues at all, proving just how relatively easy it was to do.
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